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Music alright gentlemen looking forward to a conversation here we're going to be as you know talking about church membership and I think the question at least a question that we get most often here is where do we find this in the scriptures like is there a text or text that we're going to kind of point to church membership that says this is why you should belong to a local church is that there how do we deal with that as we're talking at a theological level yeah it'd be great if there was like a verse that says this one join a local church right, but it's not there, but there are a lot of things that aren't there that are then inferred and drawn from biblical theology or just a look at Scripture, and so I think you've got a couple of things I think you've got a culture that's leery of institutions you've got an institution that's a bit shell-shocked by the backlash over institutions and so then it becomes an easy thing to ignore what's been historically understood among the people of God namely that God has given the local church and membership in a local church to the church for her own protection and edification and the building up of Christians and the fullness of what Christ has paid for them to become yeah what where are we seeing that we talk about biblical theology we're seeing kind of a theme or a thread that's through the scriptures that talks about this or infers this give some examples about that yeah I think they're two in particular that I'll point people to the first is the idea of leadership and submission to leadership right again a wildly unpopular topic in our day, but I think of the passage in particular in Hebrews that it says obey your leaders because they keep watch over your souls as those who will have to give an account now two things one as an elder I want to know who exactly am I accountable for am I accountable for all Christians everywhere am I like there are multiple churches all around us am I ultimately held accountable for the Christians in those locations I don't think I am right I do think I'm held for the members of the village church and then who are they to obey are they to obey the elders at these other congregations because all of them have them so know that they're not there to obey the leaders in a given context in a given local body, so that would be the first argument the argument around leadership and plurality of leadership, and then I think the second argument again these are wildly unpopular topics is around the issue of discipline and how a church practices discipline for the good of for the restoring of for the love of someone who is rebelling against what God has clearly called a Christian to do and so at the very end of discipline which is this should be this long gracious plea for repentance they if the person just says I don't care what the Bible says I don't care what Christian wisdom says I'm going to do what I'm going to do and begins to exhibit the fruit of unbelief then the church is...
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