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We don't do that many interviews where the guests really gets upset with me but today's classic interview is one of those this is from January 2014 when I interviewed Carl Gallup's who was uh you know one of these guys who like to explain why a literal interpretation of the Bible make sense if uh at least to him, I won't really say much more other than this is one of the interviews where the guest was upset with me and I look forward to reviewing it with you which we will do right now let's take a look I'm joined today by Carl Gallup's he is author of the Magic Man in the sky effectively defending the Christian faith also author of the rabbi who found Messiah the story of Yitzhak Madurai and his prophecies of the end time uh ok Carl I've been researching you all morning I have so many things to ask about, and I don't even know really kind of how to break into to what to talk about, so I guess first maybe we'll start broadly speaking what is your theory about the so-called coming of the Messiah and the end times as they may be well you want to know my theory or the story that the book puts forth this is all about what you believe if what you believe is informed by a particular text by all means tell us about it well what I believe is informed by the book that I've written the rabbi who found Messiah but of course I am a Christian unapologetically I come from a biblical worldview including the documents of the old and the New Testament of course, so my belief is that Messiah has already come presented himself in the flesh in the person of Jesus Christ in Hebrew that would be Jeshua Nashua, and he fulfilled the dozens of distinct Old Testament prophecies and his promise is after going to the cross and rising from the dead that he will come again, so my ultimate eschatology revolves around the promise in the hope that the Lord Jesus Christ will soon return to set up his kingdom on the face of the earth according to the teachings of the New Testament and the Word of God ok good this is a good framework to start with so when you say soon this soon is an interesting term to me what do you mean by soon well yeah it's an interesting term to me as well now first I want you — no I'm a 30-year pastor 27 years pastoring in a particular Church a Baptist Church on the Gulf Coast I'm a very contextual very solid very conservative I'm not a date setter I have never been my book doesn't set dates in fact the story of the book doesn't set dates but when I say soon here's what I mean again coming from a biblical worldview David when I say soon look the Bible is the Old Testament it's talking about the Old Testament the Old Testament proclaimed that in the last days and that word last days means the days but just before the coming of the Lord that Israel would revive and would return to the land well David in 1948 that happened for the first time in 27 2500 years and the only nation in the history of the world to ever do, so the nation of Israel is revived it's...
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