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We told you earlier that a secret Vatican document sum 41 years old has been revealed and that it instructed members of the church from the highest level down to consider allegations of sexual abuse by priests as the strictest secret while it's still not clear how influential this document really was some were saying it makes it very difficult for the Vatican to separate itself from the secretive policies of individual Archdiocese Phil Saving founded the New England chapter of snap the Survivors Network for those Abused by priests in 1992 he went public allegations that he was abused by a priest he settled out of court that priest was later sent to prison for 275 years in subsequent cases Salva anima joins us tonight from Watertown Massachusetts Phil thanks very much for being with us what do you make of this document some are saying it's a smoking gun do you think that's true well I think it lays out the plan that the Vatican had it's almost as if it's a textbook that all the bishops were taking their lessons from because as we've learned in the last 18 months in diocese after diocese not only across the United States but in many other parts of the world bishops had a plan whereby victims were silenced pedophile priests were protected and none of this was ever reported to civil authorities or revealed to the public but Phil I what I don't understand if is this was disseminated to bishops throughout the United States how come it's remained secret this law doesn't surprise me at all there's a lot of secrecy within the Vatican for example if you look at this document it's filled with terms like secret archives and perpetual silence and destroying evidence secret of the Holy Office I'm just tremendously relieved that finally the document is surfaced, and it's being given the attention that it warrants let me put up a statement made by the US Conference of Catholic Bishops this is what they said I'm going to read it out loud a forty-year-old document of the former Holy Office issued March 16th 1962 is being portrayed by some in and outside the media as a smoking gun allegedly proving that there was a ground plan for covering up the crime of sexual abuse of minors by clerics the essential point in response to those making this claim is they are taking the document entirely out of context therefore distorting it completely your thoughts I don't think it's being taken out of context at all it talks very clearly about investigating crimes against children swearing all sides to secrecy there's one part of this document that's talks about the victim being forced to put his hands on the Bible and swear that he would keep this a secret under the threat of excommunication do I mean what they say in response is this does nothing to prevent and was not an indication that they wanted people to prevent filing civil charges against the alleged victimizer do you think that is you think that's true or do you think that simply false I don't I don't see the...
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