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So what did you eat for breakfast- jam sandwich, yeah You had a sandwich? Yeah, A jam sandwich? Yeah, yeah I always loved mathematics as a kid, so one of my earliest memories is when I was like two years old and my grandma was cleaning the windows in our home, and I was insisting that she put numbers on the- she put the detergent on Windows in the form of numbers, so I always liked numbers and patterns and logic and so forth, things are very black-and-white where there's one right answer and everything else is wrong. I didn't like so subjective shades of gray type questions, I would work on math workbooks for fun you know my parents wanted to shut me up she just gives me a workbook, and I'll just go do sums and so forth, so I always liked mathematics, math competitions- doing that was very different from doing research mathematics, the type of problems that you've given in a problem book and so forth these are very canned problems, things you can do in five minutes or ten minutes, and they don't prepare you completely for a research problem where, you know, you have to spend six months, you have to read the literature, talk to people, try something, doesn't work, modify, try it again, and it's a very different experience doing research, but I like it a lot better actually than– than all the puzzles I used to do as a kid I don't do these things very much anymore. My mother was a high school math teacher when she was younger, so she did help me a little you know when I was a kid you know, just talking numbers with me, and then I had a lot of very good mentors when I was like 10 or 11 there was a retired math professor in Adelaide which I'd go visit on the weekends, we'd have tea and cookies, and you know he would just discuss some recreational math problem, and so forth, which was a lot of fun. He would tell me stories about how he'd use math during World War Two, and so forth, you know, to do ballistics and so forth. It was kind of fun to actually see math actually being used for something “He had a PhD in math from Princeton at 20 and was appointed professor of mathematics at UCLA at 24” I enjoyed it I mean when I was a kid I mostly enjoyed doing math and geeky things and so forth, and you know, being accelerated and going to uni that early, I was around people who are older than me but had similar backgrounds, so we were at sort of the same level mathematically, so you know these people five years older maybe, but we're both stuck on the same homework assignments, we both like to talk about various math concepts and so forth, so I felt at home you know, so I did miss out on maybe sort of the regular high school experience you know sort of– I didn't go to many, you know, high school social events and so forth I did a lot of that actually once I was in grad school in Princeton. So then I hung around people my own age, and you know, then I partied and so forth, so I sort of had a slightly reorganized childhood, but it worked out well for me “And I...
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