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Well, I've learned a lot about the war. Both of my grandfathers took part in the war. One did not go to the battlefield. The other was part of the navy, I think, and he went somewhere to the south. Something like that. So, when I was little -- both of my grandfathers have now passed away -- they told me some stories. Yes, and, well, I think that their generation shares in the understanding that they hate war. My grandfather and grandmother, of course they played a role in the war themselves, but they felt strongly that they were the victims. That's one thing. Then, my parents' generation experienced the war, but only barely. They especially remember of the days the war was ending. Do you know of air raid shelters? My parents still remember running and hiding in the air raid shelters, from when they were children. They remember how in the last days of the war, there was nothing left; that they were hungry all the time. Then, that the Occupation Army came -- the American Army -- and gave out chocolate. Those kinds of stories. Other than that, there's the information we learned in school. AS: When you say quot;information, *?? Do you mean, “this happened on this day?quot; Well, yes, that comprised the majority of what we learned from the history textbooks in class. Though that knowledge (those textbooks) is (are) criticized for various reasons. Hmm, well, it comes up as part of Japanese history, at the very end of the school year, basically. AS: Is that in middle school? High school? We learned it in elementary, middle, and high school. Yes. Well, as far as people's stories go, I didn't hear much from my grandparents' generation. It must have been memories that they did not want to share, so I don't remember ever hearing them talk about it. But, there were photos. Black and white photos of my dad's parents. They lived in Tokyo at the time, running a Western clothing stores. They had several workers and one of the workers was going to the war. So there are pictures of them all celebrating, seeing him off. There was the person leaving for the war and everyone around him -- they were all standing with flags of the Rising Sun. And he had a soldier's good-luck belt with stitches made by 1,000 women and a bunch of other stuff. It was a picture of him being given these things and all this happening. So when I saw that, I thought, quot;Wow. The war was here, too.” Since my grandparents were living in Tokyo at the time, they evacuated to their family homes in Pagan Prefecture. And then they've lived there ever since. AS: Oh is that so? Yes, that's what happened. AS: Is that in the countryside? Yes, it's a very rural area. So, actually, unlike where my husband is from, the Occupation Forces didn't come. There weren't really any air raid shelters either. It was somewhat more peaceful. My mom, especially, almost doesn't remember the war, it was such a rural place. The only thing you had there was farming, so you didn't have people dropping bombs. I am very...
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