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Good afternoon everybody it's Martha can you all hear me okay yeah good to hear that, so we're going to go ahead and begin thank you for all your you attendees we have about 30 right now which I know includes some conference room full of agents and managers I appreciate that I also see we've got some OAS on the line which I appreciate immensely when OS has the time to join us and so we're going to be going to go ahead and begin if you want to ask any questions because we are in a few minutes going to mute you all, and so I will not be able to hear you so but if you do want to ask a question we will have a Q&A at the end of the period, but it's in the meantime you want to ask a question you will see a little on your right the right-hand side of your screen a little hand if you click that you will be able to ask a question, or you can go down to the very bottom and email me that just comes to me essentially and I can respond to your question if it can't wait until the very end please do not put me on hold and if you do, that brings up the hold music and it's very disruptive to everybody so if you need to leave your desk for whatever reason again you are on mute but just put the phone down and then come back, or you can actually hang up and then call in again if necessary, so we are going to begin today is on we're going to do the PRE possession addendum and the post possession addendum because the PRE and post addendum are very similar in a lot of the language, so we can do them i think easily back-to-back and one of the things do I do want to point out though I'm both pre and post excuse me and this question has come up again we're going to do prepossession post possession, and I'm going to do them together because they're pretty similar and the one of the questions that has come up recently over and over again prepossession post possession should only be used for like 12 maybe five days no more than I would say like seven days they any longer especially on a post possession situation usually prepossession only is a few days the post possession could be a lot longer if a seller is waiting to close escrow on their new house or the Builder is going to finish building the house whatever the cases, and we could be looking at 30 days or more so again any time it's going to be over 5 or 7 days a lease agreement should be used not to post possession or prepossession forms there's a lot more meat to those forms like my only concern on with prepossession, and normally you wouldn't have longer than a few days anyway in prepossession as I mentioned is the pre possession form as you can see on the form itself the addendum the bold in the very first paragraph it says per statute of the Arizona residential lamp the Arizona resident residential landlord and tenant act this addendum does not create a landlord tenant relationship, so my concern is if you're using a lease you know do you have a conflict there, but again you're going to see longer post possession...
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